The Second Debate: However badly you think you think Hillary did, she did worse.

I just watched the Second Presidential Debate. If I was nervous about the first one  I was doubly so with the second. I knew Hillary was not going to collapse or cough or whatever. Worse than this, a couple of days before the debate, The Trump Tapes had been dropped on Trump and were seen as perhaps campaign ruining by some.

I thought Trump may have been on the ropes a little. I know he is a smart guy and plays to win. I know he is not sensitive and soft, but in addition to this I knew he had two moderators and they were both Liberals. I suspected he was being set up to be bailed out of the campaign.

I had two things that gave me a little solace. Firstly, Trump is unpredictable and secondly, he has the bar set so low for him in terms of expectation, that he may survive this debate even if it goes rather badly.

Now I have watched the debate in its entirety and all I can say is “Wow! Holy shit!”. Hillary has done so very badly here. Terribly. I will need to really spell out how bad this was in my view because it is not perhaps as some have spelled it out of for reasons they may say. Its actually worse and for better reasons.

Last debate Hillary won. She did better. Not by much, but better. Trump returned the favour. I would have rated out of 10 for the last debate, Hillary a 7.5 and Trump a 6. You will note not a lot between them. This debate I would rate Hillary a 6-6.5 and Trump a 7.5-8.

Hillary suffers from a weight of media and Liberal surrogate driven high expectations. She is SUPPOSED to be this experienced, super knowledgeable, efficient , connected, policy wonk. Trump is supposed to be an inefficient, uncontrolled, ineffective, ignorant, useless, stupid, hopeless, rambling idiot. His expectations are terrible.

As I said in the previous post she is almost obligated to destroy Trump in the debates because she is this political superwoman and he is a joke candidate in contrast and comparison, apparently. So he doing not markedly worse than her in the first debate actually probably went against her. This time he actually beat her. THAT REALLY goes against her. IF he is this hopeless candidate and she is the pinnacle of political brilliance, how the Hell does that happen?

But it is worse than that Trump is a person that is not running on political experience or political knowledge or his political achievements. He is running on his energy, personality, anti-establishment ideas, and his fresh ideas. This debate forum is entirely suited to Clinton. He also wings it far more than Hillary and THAT is a weakness. If she gets such low crowds, hates rallies and interviews, has no personality and such, then THIS is where she HAS to demolish him. Three debates. First one she barely won, second one, she lost, and now she only really has one more opportunity.

But it gets worse than that. The Moderators were interjecting, favouring Hillary, loading questions against Trump, and even debating Trump. Still he won.

But it gets worse still. Two days ago the Trump Tapes were dropped and caused an uproar. Trump publicly apologised and People were up in arms. It was going to come up and it was going to be ugly. Seemingly all Hillary had to do was to sink the boot. Trump was expected to be knocked down by this and leave the debate with his campaign in tatters. What did he do? He got the women who have been on the other end of Hillary’s malice to speak out about this and to be in the front row of the Presidential debate. then when it got onto that topic (and not satisfied with Trump’s inability to  grovel) and ask it three times, Trump was able to answer it effectively and decisively and take that off the table. Hillary could not do much with it and when she did he destroyed her with talking about Bill (with him in the audience no less).

I get the feeling that she is simply out of strategy or answers. She is losing ground and her campaign’s attempts to hurt him are failing. I expect there will be bigger things to come out in this last 4 weeks and they will be more terrible BUT after this sensational failure, won’t it be seen as what it is? Desperate ploys made by desperate people?

This still could go any way. But Hillary has one more opportunity to take out Trump. If Trump can gain in the Battleground states and keep those gains, he will win and he is slowly doing that. A slight shift to him will have him turn Florida and Pennsylvania from tied to win. There is precious little between North Carolina, Virginia, Nevada, Colorado, Minnesota and Wisconsin. Higher rates of Republican and Independent turnouts for Trump and/or a few percent shift, will change the whole nature of this election.

Watch how desperate Hillary’s campaign will be from here on out and how many different tactics they will use. Strap in folks. It is going to be a bumpy ride.

 

 

YES, Trump said some really crappy things about women, and…..

….that means what exactly? This is the bit I am struggling with. He is not a nice guy? He is suddenly unable to lead America because he said some shitty things ten years ago? That his policies are somehow less important or considered or relevant than they were a few days ago before we knew?

What exactly?

Is what he said excusable? Does it need to be? Really? Why? And what does that mean anyhow? I mean this people saying “Oh your apology looks forced”, Who fucking cares? Its from people that would under no circumstances have accepted it and probably would not have voted for him regardless, but want to marinate in his “comeuppance”. Fuck them, there is nothing he would have been able to do to “make things right” with them, so who cares about their opinion?

So Hillary and her surrogates think that this nullifies his attacks over her husbands, treatment of women. What about Hillary herself? He certainly was taped having a pretty lewd locker room type spew against women, but what about HER?

I do not even have to look at Bill and HIS behaviour but LOOK at Hillary. Not that Hillary has said anything that Donald has said (which is immature, chest thumping, ego blasting, crass, lewd locker room speak) BUT I would say this is equally on the same level……on second thoughts probably a fair bit worse.

Did you get an apology from Hillary? Will anyone expect it? Will she be pilloried for it?

The thing that pisses me off with this whole thing is that Hillary could rock up to the debate with a baby on her lap and proceed to eat it live on air and she would get a pass on it. Trump will cop a lot of shit over this and it may stymie his rise.

I was never under any allusion about Trump. The man IS flawed. “How flawed?” Is the question. Not nearly as much as Hillary. His getting another Conservative judge will prevent a lot of eroding of the US legislation and will prevent redefining traditionally held interpretations of the constitution. His putting America first will allow America to thrive in a world economy. His willingness to break up the establishment will allow for a lot of the trough swilling corruption to be exposed and cauterised. He is taking out Common Core. He has that effect of calling out bullshit (much like the boy from the Emperor’s new clothes story). It is a necessary when political correctness and moral pandering to “Progressives” and Liberal media has a chilling effect on people. He calls it out right or wrong. He is coming at many of his policies with a fresh set of eyes and that is also helpful.

I think he will get decent and smart people around him to feed him good knowledge and execute the aspects of government that he needs to run America. I do not think he will be terribly hands on but I think that he will be a decent statesman as his talks with the Egyptian leaders and the Mexican President.

I think as flawed as he is, he is not without any merit and I think the same cannot be said for Hillary. In the debate when he said “She has experience and its bad experience. 30 years and what have you done?” Its all true. She is the embodiment of political corruption and status quo. The very worst of politics is what she offers. It needs to be done away with.

I am so annoyed that this COULD actually hurt him and be seen as mattering to his Presidency when it doesn’t in the slightest.

 

My two cents on the first Presidential debate

I hate Hillary BUT I love an underdog. That was Donald. Now I am not going to pretend and spin a narrative here. I will call it straight. Pieces fall where they may.

Hillary has been built up by the press and the Liberal surrogates to be this Uber-woman of politics. The pinnacle of Presidential candidacy. The best this to be injected into politics since whenever. In respect to Donald trump, he was unelectable, unpresidential, stupid, boorish, charmless, ineffectual, inarticulate, and a joke.

What they had failed, in their stupidity, to realise is where this sets the bar of expectation for each candidate. Hillary has to annihilate Trump and handle him with utmost ease and Trump has to fail utterly.

I admit I thought it would go precisely either of two ways. Either she was going to be the frail, sickly, unfocused and off form or she was going to be on her game and well-rehearsed, focused and in command of her faculties.

Trump in the last few months has consolidated and gone hard after Hillary’s lead. It has vanished and the battle ground states that were 6 or 7 points down, he is now leading in. The ones that were 13 points down are now in play and some are starting to shift into being in play, that were not considered anything but safe. (Who would have guessed Missouri, Illinois or Massachusetts would have been a consideration two months ago?) But now was the moment of reckoning.

He was taking on Hillary. A frail, unfocused Hillary not in command of her faculties would kill the remaining hope of winning. He was going to roll her if she was like that. I hoped this is what was going to happen. I hoped for a series of coughs,, maybe a seizure and topped off with her excusing herself and then fainting. That could have worked for me. The alternative was that an focused well-rehearsed Hillary would smash Trump and not only stop his meteoric rise in the polls but would start reversing all that work. Then I saw her.

It was healthy Hillary. My heart sank. Trump was screwed.

Then something rather unexpected happened (I should expect the unexpected with Trump), Trump rose to the occasion. He held his own. I still find it strange that I find this so surprising.

Now I promised you honesty and so honestly speaking, Hillary technically was much better. She was practiced. She was focused and by any metric she beat Trump. let’s keep it real. She was polished. She was Presidential and statesman-like. (Believe me I do not like saying this either). Trump? He was not polished. He was not as prepared. He went off topic a fair bit. He was given to a lot of vague meandering nonsense and he interrupted. BUT not a lot. He ALSO took it to her as much as she him and on bigger point. They both left their mark on each other. He was came up with some damn good points and more importantly enough of them.

YES Hillary out-performed Trump but not considerably. The truth is that he stayed with her right to the end. She was SUPPOSED to break past him and leave him in the dust instead of a winning photo finish. HER strength over Donald is an in-depth knowledge of policies and politics from 30 years involved intimately with it. It was her chance to prove how great she could show herself in this and how lacking Donald was in this area. THAT is ALL she has. (Well that, and a Moderator helping her). She could not do it.

Serious questions need to be asked in the Clinton camp. Trump brings hope, a new vision, a persuasive personality, energy, and an ability to talk off the cuff about what he feels with Americans. What else does Hillary have besides the weight of the Liberal press and establishment (that has not stopped the rise of Trump) AND the well rehearsed scripts on policies and political experience (that came to mean nothing in the debate)? She has nothing.

Its actually worse than that though. Hillary was on the top of her game. Trump exhausted her ammunition and kept himself in check. He got the feel of what she was like her measure. I know he will capitalise. Hillary is not an evolving creature. She is the final form. He adapts and evolve and we have seen this throughout the Presidential race. He is unpredictable and she will not be able to get a bead on her. He has her and he will got after her to counter her a little on next debate.

Moreso than this. He was more presidential and in control than he has been any time in the cycle and she was the polished robot. Therefore whilst she has scripted answers, he seemed to go off the cuff. Whilst the prattling was a bit much sometimes it sounded (true or not) honest. She did not sound honest (true or not), she sounded like she had practiced everything she said. With such little between them in the actual debate, this factor will possibly sway the undecided voters to Trump. It would have been absolutely different if she sounded like a robot AND buried Trump….but she didn’t.

I honestly cannot see Hillary capitalising on this debate for the next. The debate was a wash. But it gave the opponents at least a measure of each other. I think Hillary is not going to be able to prepare for the next debate’s Trump. She lost her opportunity to take control of the campaign and take Trump off the chess board and she failed.

The beauty of it is the Liberal press and Liberal establishment have helped pave the way for her lose in overrating Hillary and underrating Trump as badly as they have. Had they have been considered equals she would not appear to have done so badly below expectation and he would not have appeared to eclipse all expectation. They screwed themselves and I love the Schadenfreude.

Trump Train has no brakes, it would appear. He will be next President.